Internet & Tech: The Future

Believing is different from actual certainty. The survey is interesting, but it's far from conclusive, which then is relying on pure probablity. I would take it lightly and not base the future off of this information, but instead to always keep it in mind.

The percentage itself is a good sign of probablity.

You can apply Moore's Law to all of technology (not just processor chips).

The next 50 years are going to be exponentially more innovative than the past 50 (which gave us the PC, basically any "technological" home product, the Internet...and as I watch ESPN, extreme sports. haha)

Television needs to go 100% web. It's nearly there. But your TV would be its own Tivo, or maybe what comcast is doing with On Demand and store everything on servers. Catch any game, anywhere that has a camera. Just broadcast it to the internet, zap it to the tube, viola! It beats crappy local channels, and the "theres nothing on"...

Audarius - There were millions of people that said "so what" to the internet years upon years ago. Not everyone saw a use for it. And now, I dont think I have to go thru the popularity of the internet not only for personal but also business uses.

An online coffee maker?...could download coupons, provide new recipes, connect to your calendar to have coffee ready when you want it, reorder filters/coffee/creamer by itself. There are uses, and as long as there is a market for those uses, it's possible that a coffee maker could go online.

Audarius - There were millions of people that said "so what" to the internet years upon years ago. Not everyone saw a use for it. And now, I dont think I have to go thru the popularity of the internet not only for personal but also business uses.

An online coffee maker?...could download coupons, provide new recipes, connect to your calendar to have coffee ready when you want it, reorder filters/coffee/creamer by itself. There are uses, and as long as there is a market for those uses, it's possible that a coffee maker could go online.

I would have to debate with you on the "so what" about the internet. The internet was created with a huge purpose. That purpose was the sharing of information among educational and research institutions. I don't believe anyone (or millions) would say the internet is useless in its early days.

About the coffee maker part, why would I buy a coffee maker that can do all those things when I can just buy a PC that can do all that + more? Now that question opens another question, why decentralize the use everything when we can centralize it? Why not centralize home appliances on the PC? Instead of starting all over on everything, lets advance what we already have for it, what happen to innovation? The more I get into this discussion the more "via internet concept" makes less sense. There are better concepts that can happan today, not years.

Everything has uses, but the real question is whether its a luxury use or a needed use. The internet coffee maker has luxury uses, so I could just say "So what?" to it.

If you told people 25 years ago that they needed desktop PC's in their house, you would have received the same response you just gave me "so what, what's the purpose". I mean come on, I could always pose the following question; what's the purpose of anything?

So theres no reason today, what would be the reason 10 - 60 years from now?
I gave reason as to why I would "So what?" to the "via internet concept", but I would like to know why people would say "So what?" to the desktop PC 25 years ago. And you should also always pose that question of an object, but I was wrong in one thing. There is purpose everything, but everything has a different, and level of, purpose."via internet" has little purpose.

Confusion 2: I'm also not disregarding the desktop, but I'm saying that there are 100 times more devices being sold than desktops, making it a much more liquid market.

Yeah I guess misunderstood.

Confusion 3: "Internet" and WWW aren't the same thing in this context, meaning your devices wouldn't have their own website. Instead, you might be connected via an open platform that each device connects to (that's where the money would be - I think being on 3 billion devices beats being on 300 million PC's anyday).

No confusion here. I'm thinking just like you with an open platform/universal matrix.

The point of having devices/appliances connected to the web would be access and control, as I have already exemplified. Yeah, it may not be a big deal now... but what about 60 years from now when your iRobot (designed by Apple) needs direct access to your coffee makers config file so it can start brewing? Again, we're just throwing around ideas and discussing the future... What's useless today might not be useless tomorrow, or 50 years from now. Who knows.

Ah now I see, why use the internet for access and control? Think about the security implications of this! You might as well give your house to a hacker!lol Nothing on the internet is unbreakable and to actually put things like appliances on the internet for access and control would be insane. Read about what I said to SSM about access and control from just a PC.

About the iRobot thing, why the internet? Accessing a config file has nothing to do with the internet. If we had iRobots today, we could just insert a computer chip and the robot could connect via IR. Or use a specially-designed type of wifi, not the same as internet wifi though.

I'm not discussing what is useless today, can't really do that. But we can always eliminate/breakdown possiblites.

Well, the internet would have several advantages in the event of an "iRobot". For example, your settings would be stored on the internet, so each "robot" would remember you without the need for flash drives and whatnot.

That's not a very good example. Why can't it be just stored on the robot themselves? I don't see no need for flash drives anyways in this situation.

About media and data "everywhere"... Again, you could go to your friends house and show him the video you recorded on your PC or on Tivo - this isn't possible with a LAN setup as you mention. You could login to his radio and show him that latest badass song... The possibility is unlimited. The reason I said "coffee maker" was just to show that even the most boring appliances could actually make use of the internet (although, that "use" is definitely in question).

Not a LAN setup otherwise I would of said LAN. We currently have internet radio and the sharing of video, the possiblities are already here and they're growing right now, today.

I firmly believe that the internet IS the next medium... You won't be carrying around CD's and flash drives - you'll just have to remember a username and password.

I believe the internet is a medium that is continously evolving. You didn't address security.

I guess I'm sort of thinking of a GDrive or S3 drive that everything can connect to... However, GDrive isn't open and I don't think a "closed" or proprietary system is the key. Now, when I say "configuration file"... I simply mean a file that would be stored in your remote account.

Ok so GDrive, then that goes back down to things people want to share and store. Not access and control?

Devices in the next five to ten years that will make significant headway into the "data everywhere" world;

It's possible.

It's all about "data everywhere", data which is controllable and accessible by all devices. When you manipulate data, you exert "access" and "control"... They are essentially synonymous in this respect.

Ok that makes sense.

When you say "Why not centralize home appliances on the PC?", that would essentially be a Local Area Network or LAN. Streaming everything from your desktop PC is going backwards. Your data should be available when and where you want it... Not tethered to your desktop (i.e. a Local Area Network, aka LAN), that's inefficient.

I understand that I wasn't very specific on the LAN. Your PC can be held as your home control panel, it can be configured like a home entertainment system which is a centralized system. If you wish to connect to your PC from a remote location we already have technology and applications on PCs including cell phones. Of course it would be right to connect to your radio independently but you should only be able to when in the proximity, you don't use the radio when no ones home. A better example would be if I wanted to upload mp3s directly into my radio, I would use my PC of course from configing and everything, but if I wanted to use another PC then that PC can directly connect (not open to the internet) to my radio through ways similar to an IP, the radio would have its own username and password. And if someone would like to listen to what I have on my radio they can easily tune to my IP because the radio would be part of my broadband connection. This is possibly a more secure, direct, and efficient approach. Its like having your PC as a remote control for your entire house, even from remote locations.

YouTube and internet radio still require extra steps, and ultimately disaggregate and decentralize data if it's used as storage mediums. Those services are steps in the right direction, but they are not the LAST steps.

Exactly, like I said, it's still growing.

In terms of security, if you're on the internet right now, you're at risk. How many times has your system been hacked in the true sense of the word? I can't say that mine ever has. Heck, each device could connect through WiFi and sit behind a firewall... Your "WebFS" would use 128 bit or 256 bit encryption (whatever is allowed by law). Remember when people were afraid to shop online because of credit card fraud? eBay seems to be running pretty smooth.

Hacked? No. Maybe that's because I haven't given them a reason too but what you're suggesting does give them reason. I've learned that wifi is the easiest to penetrate even behind a firewall. Those encryptions don't mean anything because like I said, nothing is inpenetrable, what is not inpenetrable if the data in the palm of my hand inside a flash drive.

This isn't just about credit card fraud, because what you're suggesting is everything uploaded into a open platform/universal matrix. No more flash drives, desktops, and I'm guessing any type of physical storage device. Every sensitive and insensitive data and information in one place that just requires a username and password, that anyone can steal from you. Just think about the risks the company would put itself in, that company would need all the insurance in the world if anything goes wrong lol. All the blame would be on the company.

I really don't know how to explain it any different. Back before the internet, many people did say it would be useless... There will ALWAYS be a large portion of naysayers when it comes to new technology, and "data everywhere" will have its own share.

Yeah it will have its own share, I wouldn't be surprised if the government stepped in. I just now thought about it: The Patriot Act would love this! lol
Most likely major restrictions would be layed down for security concerns. On top of that, I don't see businesses using such a system either, especially huge corporations who have huge amounts of classified information. Business and government is the top two reasons why it can't be the next Microsoft or anything close to it.

I totally agree with access to anything anywhere. For instance, the iRobot - thousands of them, maybe millions around everywhere could simply read your thumb print/retina and know what you need or want because of what is stored on the iDataBase. I've thought for years that PC will become "public" computer terminals where you go to them anywhere...like phonebooths. You sign in somehow, and browse thru all of your data which is saved online. Thats where I see things going. Of course people will still have their home/laptop computers but wont be forced to travel with them anywhere.